Warner Board of Selectmen

Meeting Minutes

Wednesday, May 12, 2010

 

Chairman Hartman opened the public session at 1:07 p.m.

In Attendance:   Selectman David E. Hartman – Chairman, Selectman David Karrick, Jr., Selectman Clyde Carson &

Town Administrator – Laura Buono  

Others present: Fire Chief - Richard Brown, Fire Department Clerk – Richard Stanley, Fire Department member Ed Mical, Marianne Howlett, Mark Hoar, Martha Mical  

1. Ambulance Service

About a year ago the Selectmen’s office received an ambulance bill from the Town of Hopkinton exceeding $80K.  The Board of Selectmen then met with the Hopkinton Selectmen last summer and it appeared that they were not interested in revising Warner’s services; at this time there is no written agreement with the Town of Hopkinton .  The Town Administrator has completed research on what other town’s have done, such as a memorandum of agreement.  

The Town Administrator asked if this meeting is about putting information together for a memorandum of understanding with Hopkinton so that the Town will know what it will be paying.  The Town Administrator does not believe there will be a change in 2010 and for the past two years the ambulance billing from the Town of Hopkinton has been very high, without a contract, budgeting for the cost is difficult.   

Selectman Carson feels there are two things that need to be done.  One is to negotiate a contract with the Town of Hopkinton that would be put into effect this year.  And since Hopkinton has doubled their charges it would be beneficial to look at other options.   

Rich Stanley understands that last year the Town of Hopkinton was looking to do away with their own ambulance service and join a third party service.   The Town of Hopkinton realized that a third party service would not work.  Mr. Stanley believes the price increase was an attempt to recoup money for Hopkinton.  

Rich Stanley said the Hopkinton ambulance service is now a 24 hour service with a paramedic.  Selectman Karrick asked if Warner should be paying something extra for that type of service.  Mr. Stanley said he does not know what the going rate is, what he can say is their service is outstanding.  

Selectman Carson said New London charges half of what Hopkinton charges for their member towns for ambulance service and he assumes the service is comparable.  Mr. Stanley disagrees, there have been occasions where New London and Bradford ambulance services have been used and he believes they are not at the same caliber as Hopkinton plus their response time is not as quick as Hopkinton.  Mr. Stanley said the Town of Bradford is staffed the same as Warner; when there is a call the staff has to get to the station and Bradford is not staffed to the medic level and about 50% of calls a paramedic intercept is called with Hopkinton or Henniker which adds time to the response time.  Mr. Stanley said New London ambulance is affiliated with New London Hospital that’s probably why the cost is lower.  Hopkinton ambulance is affiliated with Concord Hospital but not run by it.   

The Town Administrator said again there is no contract with the Town of Hopkinton and over the last couple of years the cost for ambulance service has jumped dramatically.   Chief Brown said in the beginning the Town was being billed for what was not collected.  Since then the rates have increased to $500 for an ambulance call.  The Chief recommends contacting area towns and compare the prices.  Selectman Carson said Hopkinton started adding their fixed costs to the billing and Warner had no input.  The Fire Chief said Warner has the best working relationship with Hopkinton; their service is the quickest and the best.  The Fire Department staff recommends negotiating a contract with the Town of Hopkinton .  The Fire Chief asked if surrounding towns could be contacted for what they pay for ambulance service.  Selectman Carson said he has been working on a spreadsheet.  The latest billing indicates that Warner is paying $900 per call for Hopkinton’s ambulance service, it’s not clear if Hopkinton is billing in full for non-transports, which could be negotiated in the contract.  The Town Administrator said Hopkinton has included their short fall in their budget as well as their capital reserve fund.  In the past the bill included only what was not collected.   

Chairman Hartman asked the Town Administrator to re-focus the meeting.  The Town Administrator said she was under the impression the meeting would cover what is best for the Town; does the Town stay with Hopkinton, does the Town look at other services, but for the time being establish a contract with the Town of Hopkinton for budgeting purposes and agree it’s a fair budget for the taxpayers.   

Selectman Carson has already spoke with New London ambulance which would not be able to service Warner in a timely manner.   

Chairman Hartman asked the Town Administrator to create a draft agreement with a per-call charge for transport and a call charge for a non-transport as a beginning negotiation.  The Fire Chief recommended $600 per call and using the original agreement from years ago as a boiler plate.  Selectman Carson had another suggestion; have an annual contract paying what is reasonable.  The Fire Chief recommended checking with other towns that do not have an ambulance service such as Boscawen, Canterbury , Sutton, Newbury and Allenstown etc.  The Fire Chief feels a reasonable cost is $575 for a transport and $150 for a non-transport.  

2. Nonpublic Session

Chairman Hartman moved to enter into Nonpublic Session at 2:06 p.m. per RSA 91-A:3 II (c), reputation. The motion was seconded by Selectman Karrick. A roll call vote was taken. Chairman Hartman – yes; Selectman Karrick – yes; Selectman Carson – yes.  Motion passed unanimously.   

In attendance: Chairman David Hartman., Selectman David Karrick, Selectman Clyde Carson; Town Administrator Laura Buono, Police Chief William Chandler, Sargent Scott Leppard

Chairman Hartman moved to come out of Nonpublic Session at 2:46 p.m.   The motion was seconded by Selectman Carson. A roll call vote was taken. Chairman Hartman – yes; Selectman Karrick – yes; Selectman Carson – yes.  Motion passed unanimously. 

Chairman Hartman moved to seal and restrict the nonpublic meeting minutes per RSA 91A:3 III.  Motion was seconded by Selectman Karrick.  A vote was taken.  Motion passed unanimously.

3. Deeding – Reversal of Decision

Mark Hoar met with the Selectmen because he is interested in retaining Map 10 Lot 37.  Tax Collector, Marianne Howlett said the Board could do a right to re-purchase which includes bringing the property taxes current (2009).  Martha Mical said another requirement of the law for re-purchase is a 15% penalty on the value of the property which amounts to $9,150.  Ms. Howlett said that the 15% penalty has not been applied to past properties that were deeded.  Chairman Hartman said a 15% penalty seems to be harsh when the property was deeded less than 24 hours ago.  The Town Administrator said she has never known that the 15% must be charged; she said she will check with Local Government Center , she believes the 15% is a Selectmen’s decision.   

Chairman Hartman recommends reconsidering the Selectmen’s vote that took place on May 11th.  The Board members agreed because the back taxes have been paid.  Selectman Carson moved to reconsider the Selectmen’s vote made on May 11, 2010 and reverse the deeding on Map 10 Lot 37 providing the landowner pays back taxes by the end of May 12, 2010 .  Selectman Karrick seconded the motion; all were in favor, the motion passed.   

4. Other Business

Selectman Carson asked the Board members if they could attend the bike rack ceremony on May 15th at 10:00 a.m.   Chairman Hartman said he would like to know where the rack will be installed and will be able to attend.  

On May 18, 2010 during their work session the Board will visit a barn on Map 15 Lot 09 as part of the Barn Preservation Easement process.  On May 24, 2010 at 2:00 p.m. the Board will visit a junk yard located on Couchtown Road .   

5. Adjournment

Selectman Karrick moved to adjourn at 3:05 p.m. seconded by Selectman Carson.  A vote was taken.  Motion passed unanimously. 

Board of Selectmen  

David E. Hartman - Chairman
David Karrick, Jr.
Clyde Carson

   

Respectfully submitted,

Mary Whalen

Recording Secretary